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Code 1870 Revisited (4L60E/4L30E) by Jim Dial

Just when you thought you had all of the P1870 Torque Converter Clutch slip codes under your belt, another vehicle comes along.... and here we go again!
I am sure that most of you are familiar with the 4L60E P1870 TCC slip code and Torque Converter shudder problems related to the code. This was usually related to Torque Converter Regulator Valve bore wear out, causing a loss of Torque Converter Apply pressure, allowing the Torque Converter Clutch to slip, and we all know what fixes are available for that. Now we have a 2000 model year Isuzu Trooper and BMW models, equipped with the 4L30-E transmission, showing up into shops with the same P1870 code. You guessed it, the same kind of TCC Regulator Valve bore wear is the cause here also. The biggest problem, is that there is little printed material to tell us where the TCC regulator Valve train is located and how it works. We all know that if you don't know how it works, you cant even begin to to fix it!
History: In the 2000 model year, Isuzu Trooper and some BMW models went to a Pulse Width Modulated Torque Converter Clutch apply strategy. Isuzu Rodeo, Honda Passport and Cadillac Catera stayed with the typical ON-OFF TCC apply, that they have had since day one. This strategy change, on these limited models, has created some serious confusion in parts interchange and the identification of parts.

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